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Monday, October 02, 2006
  Foley Goes Into Rehab It appears that everytime anybody gets in trouble these days, they go into rehab. Rep. Mark Foley is doing the same thing, however, it's not like Mel Gibson got his DUI. (H/T to Sharon Cobb on this one, who caught it over the night from Drudge.) Foley didn't commit a crime that had alcohol as its center and to me, it doesn't matter if he was bombed out of his skull when he sent the IM's to that intern. He committed a crime where he was completely sexually inappropriate with a kid. Pretty simple, actually. When I used to work with battered women, I would hear the old standby from batterers "I was drunk." This is my take. Being drunk just makes a person less inhibited to do what they wanted to do anyway or at least that's my experience having worked with battered and sexually abused women and children. The "I'm an alcoholic diatribe" just doesn't wash with me. And although I lean left, I don't care that Foley is a republican. It wouldn't matter to me if he was a mugwamp, what he did was wrong. ABC has a copy of at least one of the transcripts if you want to see it. It's pretty explicit. To me, there is no doubt he is doing a sexual dance with an underage boy. But here's the thing that hacks me off as much as anything, and I've already written about it. If the political leadership knew about this as early as 2001 and WERE WARNING pages about Foley, then why didn't they stop this sooner. It's a good question.

Matthew Loraditch, a page in the 2001-2002 class, told ABC News he and other pages were warned about Foley by a supervisor.

Loraditch, the president of the Page Alumni Association, said the pages were told "don't get too wrapped up in him being too nice to you and all that kind of stuff."

The political aspect I see is that once again politics is more important than children, and that's just plain offensive. People can turn this into what they want but when people know and do nothing to protect children, no matter if they are young or in their teens as these kids were, then they are just as guilty as Foley. 
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So, for about 5 or 6 years, all the page leadership knew about this and were warning the pages? Well, THAT is possibly worse than the guy, himself, you know?

Another somewhat disturbing thing. We're learning that all the pages were warned about this guy. Okay, that's fine, but he still got involved with 3 or 4 of them AT LEAST, and some of those pages WERE somewhat interested in him (by news accounts). That's kinda' creepy, too, since these weren't really "children" but 15-17 year old boys. Remember, we've had 2 or 3 teachers who've basically been given slaps on the wrist for having illicit affairs with younger boys who were their students.

I'm not mitigating what the guy did. Not in the least. It DOES disturb me that a) the people who should have been protecting the pages basically did nothting administrativly to protect the pages and b) even warned, some of the pages showed interest in the guy, anyway.

It's ugly all around.
 
Doesn't matter to me if they were interested in him or not. Doesn't matter is they were in their upper teens, in my opinion.
We are the adults.They are not.
Remember our "friend" who did something of this nature.
Once again, it is our responsibility as the adults to take care of kids. And in my opinion, that's what they were. Kids under legal age.
Foley was the adult here. He was in a position of power and abused it.
I agree with you that no one did anything about it completely and that there were so many signs.
 
There is growing evidence now that some Democrats knew of this situation, but chose to sit on it and not reveal it to the public until now. It looks like everyone is misbehaving now.
 
Did he oppose Bush and these are the results?
 
For me, its about the sexually charged IM's to a minor and the coverup by POLITICIANS as a whole.
Ellkay, I agree. It looks like everyone used poor judgement.
Austin, who knows. All I know is that the IM's look pretty bad.
Battered women's shelters talk about abuse being about power and control. Appears to me this applies in the Foley case.
 
NC

Yeah, I know what you're saying, and I agree. On the other hand, the page system is supposed to get really bright kids that are capable of living away from home and dealing with responsibility and whatnot.

Of course it's not the kids' fault. The guy is a predator more than likely. However, when you were 15 or 16, and people TOLD YOU that the guy was a "perv", would you have still been friendly?

Yeah, it's our job to protect our kids, but eventually, they need to learn that when an adult tells them "hey, steer clear of that person", it might not be a bad idea.

I'm not blaming them. Don't get me wrong. I guess there's just too much about it that rubs me the wrong way . . . NO PUN INTENDED!

And as far as our "friend" goes, hey, that was awful, BUT there were several cases where both parties were pretty well "informed" if you know what I mean. And that's the problem with this situation and "kids". You don't know which of the kids were truly victims and which ones were completely aware of what was going on.
 
I wrote a post on this last night, but opted not to post it at this time. I am extremely angry. Not about Foley, but about the leadership knowing about this situation for certain in 2005 and possibly as early as 1998.

Why he was permitted to continue to co-chair the Missing and Exploited Children Caucus even after the leadership knew about his activities and why he was not refered to the Justice Department for investigation then is beyond me. So I decided it would be wise for me to wait until I can write about this without going into an obvious fit of rage would be best.
 
This whole thing just makes me throw the hell up.

I'm so disgusted that I can't even write about it.
 
Here's hoping this whole house of cards comes crashing down. The pervert is hiding behind the rehab doors.. & everyone who covered his tracks should be out on their ears.
 
Wow! That transcript is sure something. To anyone who says if the kids were 'warned' they should have known to stay away...Once you warn a teen to stay away, don't they automatically want to do what you've warned them not to do?? Or is that just my kids?
 
LOL! True . . . true.

Then again, I got approached by an older homosexual guy when I was 17, and no one had to tell me to stay away.

I guess it just depends on what a kid might be interested in. People told me to stay away from drugs, but I had no interest in drugs, so no big deal there.

Now, staying away from women and fast cars, on the other hand . . .
 
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